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Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b

Nous Research's flagship 405B open-weights model, fine-tuned for advanced agentic reasoning, structured JSON, and unmatched steerability.

Maker
Nous Research
Modality
Text
Context
128K tokens
Open weights
Yes

Overview

What is Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b

Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405B is a frontier-class, open-weights model developed by Nous Research. Built as a full-parameter fine-tune of Meta's Llama 3.1 405B, it is optimized for highly steerable roleplay, complex agentic reasoning, multi-turn conversations, and reliable structured JSON outputs.

Running it privately on Venice

On Venice, you can run this massive 405-billion-parameter model with absolute privacy and zero prompt retention. Venice routes your requests anonymously, ensuring your proprietary code, complex agentic workflows, and personal prompts are never stored, profiled, or used to train third-party models.

Private (zero retention)No prompt trainingTEE · hardware enclaveEnd-to-end encrypted

Assessment

Strengths and limitations

Strengths
  • Frontier-level reasoning and agentic capabilities powered by a massive 405B parameter architecture.
  • Extreme steerability, allowing users to define highly complex system prompts, personas, and custom behaviors.
  • Superb structured outputs, native JSON schema support, and reliable function calling.
  • Excellent long-context coherence and multi-turn conversation tracking.
Limitations
  • High computational footprint makes inference slower and more resource-intensive than smaller models.
  • Lacks native multimodal capabilities (text-only input and output).
  • FP8 quantization on Venice may introduce minor precision trade-offs compared to full 16-bit precision.

Capabilities

What it supports

  • Tool use / function calling
  • Vision (image input)
  • Reasoning
  • Web search
  • Code-optimized
  • Structured output (JSON schema)
  • Audio input
  • Video input
  • Multiple image inputs
  • Log probabilities

Specifications

Datasheet

Maker
Nous Research
Released
August 16, 2024
Base model
Meta Llama 3.1 405B
Parameters
405 Billion
Quantization on Venice
FP8
Open weights
Yes
Context window
128K tokens
Max output
16.384K tokens
Capabilities
Web search
Privacy on Venice
Private — zero retention
Available on Venice since
Sep 2025

API

Call it from your code

Venice exposes an OpenAI-compatible API. Point your base URL at Venice and pass the model id.

curl https://api.venice.ai/api/v1/chat/completions \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer $VENICE_API_KEY" \
  -H "Content-Type: application/json" \
  -d '{
    "model": "hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b",
    "messages": [{ "role": "user", "content": "Explain quantum tunneling simply." }]
  }'

Pricing

What it costs on Venice

Billed per token on Venice: $1.10 per 1M input tokens and $3 per 1M output tokens.

Input / 1M tokens
$1.10
Per 1M tokens
Output / 1M tokens
$3
Per 1M tokens

New Venice accounts include a free daily allowance and 500 welcome credits — no credit card required.

Alternatives

How it compares

ModelContext windowStrongest atOpen weightsPrice (Venice)
Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b128K tokensAgentic reasoning & steerabilityYes$1.10 / $3
DeepSeek V3.2160K tokensCoding & math efficiencyYes$0.33 / $0.48
Grok 4.31M tokensReal-time info & reasoningNo$1.42 / $2.83
Claude Opus 4.81M tokensDeep analysis & writingNo$6 / $30

Nous Research's flagship open-weights giant, optimized for steerability.

Use cases

What it is good for

  1. 01Complex multi-turn agentic workflows and synthetic data generation.
  2. 02Highly customized roleplaying, conversational simulation, and creative writing.
  3. 03Structured data extraction and reliable JSON generation from unstructured text.
  4. 04Advanced coding assistance, code generation, and system-level debugging.

Prompting

Getting better results

Use ChatML formatting and explicit system prompts to take full advantage of the model's steerability.

Provide clear JSON schemas when utilizing its structured output capabilities for consistent parsing.

Enable Venice's web search capability to ground its reasoning in real-time, up-to-date information.

Version history

Hermes 2 Pro (Llama 3 8B)
2024-04

Highly popular lightweight agentic model.

Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 70B
2024-08

Mid-sized flagship offering a balance of speed and intelligence.

Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405B
2024-08

Current flagship full-parameter fine-tune.

FAQ

Frequently asked questions

Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405B is a frontier-class, open-weights language model fine-tuned by Nous Research on top of Meta's Llama 3.1 405B. It is designed for advanced reasoning, agentic workflows, structured outputs, and highly customizable roleplay.

On Venice, Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405B is priced at $1.10 per 1 million input tokens and $3.00 per 1 million output tokens, offering frontier-level intelligence at a fraction of the cost of proprietary rivals.

Hermes 3 is an open-weights model released under the Llama 3.1 Community License. While it is free to download and self-host if you have the massive hardware required, Venice provides convenient, pay-as-you-go API access.

Yes, Hermes 3 has native support for structured function calling and tool use. On Venice, it is integrated with web search capabilities to ground its responses in real-time information.

Hermes 3 405b excels at extreme steerability, roleplay, and complex agentic workflows. DeepSeek V3.2 is highly efficient, cheaper, and exceptionally strong at math and coding. Choose Hermes 3 for highly customized personas and DeepSeek for raw technical tasks.

Venice operates under a strict zero-retention policy. Your prompts and generations are processed anonymously, are never stored, and are never used to train AI models, giving you complete sovereignty over your data.

On Venice, Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405B supports a context window of 128K tokens, allowing you to process large documents, extensive codebases, or long conversational histories.

Run Hermes 3 Llama 3.1 405b privately

No prompt logging. No data used for training.